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xx Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Thread started on: Mar 27th, 2010, 8:18pm »

Howdy. I've had a VS series recorder for some time and, as I've aquired a new computer, I'm looking to integrate the two. Since the computer has a nice cd burner, I'd like to use that for mixdown. My question, since as I understand it VS Pro doesn't actually record the vs's tracks into the computer, can I mix my vs tracks straight to the cd burner? Or do I need to record them into another program first? If so, any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
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xx Re: Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Reply #1 on: Mar 28th, 2010, 6:45pm »

Hiya kindablue.

"can I mix my vs tracks straight to the cd burner?"

You must mix down to two master tracks in order to burn a CD-R from a VS recorder. If you want to burn a CD-R from your computer program, you would first have to playback the VS recorder tracks in real time and record them onto available tracks in your computer program, then mixdown all tracks to two master tracks, then burn a CD-R from those two master tracks.

Then again, I'm just getting back into recording so I'm a little bit rusty and might have forgotten something... or maybe there's some CD-R burning capability of your computer program that I am unaware of. Anybody else have any thoughts on this subject?

And oh yeah... I've seen posts on The VS Planet for transferring tracks via "wav" files from VS recorders into computer programs, but I have never done it and not sure what VS recorders it applies to.

Good luck and happy recording!
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xx Re: Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Reply #2 on: Mar 28th, 2010, 7:15pm »

I'm sorry, let me clarify. What I meant to say was "Can I mix down my stereo tracks from VS Pro to my CD burner, or does that require an additional software program?" Thanks again.
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xx Re: Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Reply #3 on: Mar 31st, 2010, 4:36pm »

Hi there,

Your question might be worth posting at VS Planet to get the final answer, but my understanding is that we can only burn to a standalone CD burner connected to the VS via a SCSI connector. I don't know of a way to get the VS to recognize a PC/Mac based CD burner.

The CD needs to be burned from the VS because that's where the audio is (not in VS Pro).

Hope that sheds a little light!

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xx Re: Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Reply #4 on: Apr 1st, 2010, 12:38pm »

Hi,

Yes, if you've got the proprietary Roland external CD burner, then you don't need any software, but as Soundhaven says, you need to connect via a SCSI interface. It is crucial that you don't connect a non-SCSI device or cable though as I believe this has damaged VS recorders.

These days though, there are IMHO much easier ways to burn to CD. If you take a stereo out from the VS into the soundcard of a computer, then there are a host of cheap or probably free programs that you can use to burn with. Also, you can then easily set track markers, determine how much time you want between tracks, adjust levels and so on, and all you need is a CD drive that is re-writeable, which most PC's will have these days. Your Roland drive is still probably worth having to back up your VS data anyway.
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xx Re: Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Reply #5 on: Apr 1st, 2010, 7:28pm »

Thanks guys, I think that answers my question. I'm trying to get set up with what I have and a minimum of additional components. I'd rather do stereo mixes to my computer's cd burner than buy a stand-alone. Since I will need some additional recording program to do this, any suggestions? Thanks again.
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xx Re: Very basic mixdown question . . .
« Reply #6 on: Apr 2nd, 2010, 07:04am »

I use a cheap program called 'Audio Cleaning Lab 2004 Deluxe' by Magix. I actually didn't expect much from it, but it has been very easy to use and done everything I needed so I stuck with it. I haven't even bothered upgrading to newer better versions, because it still does what I need.

I can't offer any comparison - I know there are lots of programs that will do a lot more, and there may be free ones available as well, but this one was just a random buy from a local computer store that was cheap and worked for me.
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 3rd, 2010, 08:25am »

I just started using VirDis to store VS songs on my computer and for burning songs to CD-R. It acts as a virtual SCSI drive and is comprised of software and a special card that is installed in a PCI slot in my computer. The VS recorder is connected via a SCSI cable to the card. It costs $299. You can search for it on VS Planet or on e-Bay. It's wayyy faster, easier, and more reliable than storing songs to CD-R!

The one caveat, however, is that to burn songs to CD-R, you would first need a CD-R program that can burn what is called "BIN/CUE" file pairs. I found one freeware prgram called ImgBurn that works on my computer. However, that program automatically finalizes a CD-R not allowing any more songs to be burned to the CD-R later (i.e.; can't turn off the auto-finalizing).

Another CD-R burning freeware program is BurnAtOnce, but I couldn't get it to work on my computer... wish I could because that program supports "multi-session", meaning you can add songs at different times and then finalize later.

Anywho, you can do an Internet search for both of those CD-R burning freeware programs as well as for VirDis. I can further help out if anyone else decides to persue this this route.

Happy recording! Mike
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